Comments on: Attaching subtitles to HTML5 video http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/ Silvia's blog Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:51:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: silvia http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-4352 silvia Wed, 10 Feb 2010 22:52:56 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-4352 Here's another cool demo of how to do lyrics for an audio file in a really nicely animated way with SVG. Only problem is they used setInterval, so sync can be out of whack: http://svg-wow.org/audio/animated-lyrics.html Here’s another cool demo of how to do lyrics for an audio file in a really nicely animated way with SVG. Only problem is they used setInterval, so sync can be out of whack: http://svg-wow.org/audio/animated-lyrics.html

]]> By: HTML5, YouTube, and Why the Emperor has no Captions « bill creswell – captioning the internet one video at a time http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-3921 HTML5, YouTube, and Why the Emperor has no Captions « bill creswell – captioning the internet one video at a time Sun, 24 Jan 2010 23:35:46 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-3921 [...] There are several examples of how captions *can* be implemented with javascript, but not standard format. <cite>http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/</cite> [...] [...] There are several examples of how captions *can* be implemented with javascript, but not standard format. <cite>http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/</cite> [...]

]]> By: silvia http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1038 silvia Mon, 06 Jul 2009 01:02:36 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-1038 Another new javascript has been released - this time as a greasmonkey script, that will automatically attache captions created in a wiki with the html5 video element. Felipe Sanches from Bazil published it at http://bighead.poli.usp.br/~juca/code/greasemonkey/wiki_subs.user.js and a test page is at http://www.gpopai.usp.br/subs/test_wikisubs.html . The greasemonkey script fetches the subtitles from the following wikipage: http://www.wstr.org/subs/index.php?title=Subtitles/URL/http://www.fabricio.org/talks/2009/fisl10/FISL10-Zuardi.ogg and asks for contribution of subtitles if it doesn't exist. Another new javascript has been released – this time as a greasmonkey script, that will automatically attache captions created in a wiki with the html5 video element. Felipe Sanches from Bazil published it at http://bighead.poli.usp.br/~juca/code/greasemonkey/wiki_subs.user.js and a test page is at http://www.gpopai.usp.br/subs/test_wikisubs.html .

The greasemonkey script fetches the subtitles from the following wikipage:
http://www.wstr.org/subs/index.php?title=Subtitles/URL/http://www.fabricio.org/talks/2009/fisl10/FISL10-Zuardi.ogg
and asks for contribution of subtitles if it doesn’t exist.

]]> By: Proposal subtitle for HTML5 video tag « WiseCodes : Bringing You The Power of Code !! http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1021 Proposal subtitle for HTML5 video tag « WiseCodes : Bringing You The Power of Code !! Thu, 02 Jul 2009 18:44:12 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-1021 [...] Ginger’s Thoughts I read a very interesting proposal which I believe is that in just a proposal. Although the idea is very good and it might be [...] [...] Ginger’s Thoughts I read a very interesting proposal which I believe is that in just a proposal. Although the idea is very good and it might be [...]

]]> By: Propuesta de subtítulos para el tag video en HTML5 | aNieto2K http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-1000 Propuesta de subtítulos para el tag video en HTML5 | aNieto2K Tue, 30 Jun 2009 17:15:11 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-1000 [...] En Ginger’s Thoughts leo una propuesta muy interesante que creo que quedará en solo eso, una propuesta. Aunque la idea es muy buena y podría ser interesante disponer de ello en el nuevo HTML5. La propuesta es de Diciembre de 2008, y por el momento no hay novedades al respecto. [...] [...] En Ginger’s Thoughts leo una propuesta muy interesante que creo que quedará en solo eso, una propuesta. Aunque la idea es muy buena y podría ser interesante disponer de ello en el nuevo HTML5. La propuesta es de Diciembre de 2008, y por el momento no hay novedades al respecto. [...]

]]> By: silvia http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-866 silvia Sat, 21 Mar 2009 03:20:36 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-866 Brett, XHTML+SMIL do not actually include any solutions for out-of-band time-aligned text. It is still much too complicated for what we are looking to solve. The basic problem is that SMIL still comes from a background of creating multimedia experiences. In particular it is about animation, content control, media objects, timing and synchronization, and transition effects. The idea is to create interactive experiences with SMIL. XHTML+SMIL doesn't change that. HTML5 video comes from a *much* simpler approach: let's just be able to include <video> as an element into a Web page and possibly associate some text with it. No animations, no interactivity, no transitions. Where the more complex functionality is required, SMIL should indeed be regarded. But not for the simple <video> or <audio> element. Brett,

XHTML+SMIL do not actually include any solutions for out-of-band time-aligned text. It is still much too complicated for what we are looking to solve.

The basic problem is that SMIL still comes from a background of creating multimedia experiences. In particular it is about animation, content control, media objects, timing and synchronization, and transition effects. The idea is to create interactive experiences with SMIL. XHTML+SMIL doesn’t change that.

HTML5 video comes from a *much* simpler approach: let’s just be able to include <video> as an element into a Web page and possibly associate some text with it. No animations, no interactivity, no transitions.

Where the more complex functionality is required, SMIL should indeed be regarded. But not for the simple <video> or <audio> element.

]]> By: Brett Zamir http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-851 Brett Zamir Thu, 19 Mar 2009 01:25:02 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-851 Ok, but what do you think of the XHTML+SMIL profile? If a specific spec was designed to make them work together, wouldn't it be doable for HTML5 too? (I see their design rationale at http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusSMIL/#Design explains why a few modules were left out, though it looks like all that could be were included.) Thanks, Brett Ok, but what do you think of the XHTML+SMIL profile? If a specific spec was designed to make them work together, wouldn’t it be doable for HTML5 too? (I see their design rationale at http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusSMIL/#Design explains why a few modules were left out, though it looks like all that could be were included.) Thanks, Brett

]]> By: silvia http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-847 silvia Wed, 18 Mar 2009 10:19:59 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-847 Brett Zamir, SMIL is much too complex to take it straight into HTML5. Possibly a subpart of it could be used for a specific purpose. But we have seen from SVG that taking over some SMIL markup isn't always satisfactory - in fact it is often too restrictive and at the same time too broad. That doesn't mean inspiration cannot be had from it though! Brett Zamir, SMIL is much too complex to take it straight into HTML5. Possibly a subpart of it could be used for a specific purpose. But we have seen from SVG that taking over some SMIL markup isn’t always satisfactory – in fact it is often too restrictive and at the same time too broad. That doesn’t mean inspiration cannot be had from it though!

]]> By: Brett Zamir http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-845 Brett Zamir Wed, 18 Mar 2009 01:40:48 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-845 Out of curiosity, couldn't http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusSMIL be used ? Isn't that what SMIL is all about? (As an aside, I really wish we'd all make a transition to true XHTML already, rather than becoming ever more dependent on HTML--sigh) Out of curiosity, couldn’t http://www.w3.org/TR/XHTMLplusSMIL be used ? Isn’t that what SMIL is all about? (As an aside, I really wish we’d all make a transition to true XHTML already, rather than becoming ever more dependent on HTML–sigh)

]]> By: silvia http://blog.gingertech.net/2008/12/12/attaching-subtitles-to-html5-video/comment-page-1/#comment-756 silvia Sun, 04 Jan 2009 05:30:44 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=259#comment-756 Everything that is being discussed about <video> will also apply to <audio>. Everything that is being discussed about <video> will also apply to <audio>.

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