Comments on: Javascript libraries for <video> support http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/07/08/javascript-libraries-for-support/ Silvia's blog Sun, 28 Feb 2010 17:51:54 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.1 hourly 1 By: Metavid Blog » Help build a better Internet with Open Video http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/07/08/javascript-libraries-for-support/comment-page-1/#comment-1072 Metavid Blog » Help build a better Internet with Open Video Fri, 10 Jul 2009 22:17:31 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=468#comment-1072 [...] Update: Also see the xiph.org page on html5 video Also see Silvia’s round up of javascript libraries for embedding <video> [...] [...] Update: Also see the xiph.org page on html5 video Also see Silvia’s round up of javascript libraries for embedding <video> [...]

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]]> By: silvia http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/07/08/javascript-libraries-for-support/comment-page-1/#comment-1055 silvia Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:08:58 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=468#comment-1055 David - thanks for noticing - will correct the blog post. Silvia. David – thanks for noticing – will correct the blog post. Silvia.

]]> By: dave http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/07/08/javascript-libraries-for-support/comment-page-1/#comment-1054 dave Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:16:10 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=468#comment-1054 I've not tested this but I was under the impression that Safari supports a subset of codecs from Quicktime (this is how you can sneak Theora/Vorbis in with a codec plugin). And that Chrome, while it includes ffmpeg and could in theory support all sorts of things, only has Theora/Vorbis and H.264/AAC compiled in. So this sentence seems backward "Safari/Webkit only supports MPEG4, and Chrome supports both of these and more" Regarding your question to Dan, video4all appears to use browser specific javascript extensions, so in theory it could do more clever stuff than a cross-platform javascript (which is what it falls back to in other browsers) but I admit to being curious about what the actual benefits of this are in this case. I’ve not tested this but I was under the impression that Safari supports a subset of codecs from Quicktime (this is how you can sneak Theora/Vorbis in with a codec plugin). And that Chrome, while it includes ffmpeg and could in theory support all sorts of things, only has Theora/Vorbis and H.264/AAC compiled in.

So this sentence seems backward “Safari/Webkit only supports MPEG4, and Chrome supports both of these and more”

Regarding your question to Dan, video4all appears to use browser specific javascript extensions, so in theory it could do more clever stuff than a cross-platform javascript (which is what it falls back to in other browsers) but I admit to being curious about what the actual benefits of this are in this case.

]]> By: silvia http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/07/08/javascript-libraries-for-support/comment-page-1/#comment-1053 silvia Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:10:35 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=468#comment-1053 Hi Dan, ah - I thought it was yours - apologies. Actually, the html5flash project actually tries to implement the javascript API that HTML5 exposes for <video> to the flash player, too. So, that is not just a hack, but trying to integrate it properly. For most of the others, you are right - they make sure the video playback works, which is good, but not all the way. Let's hope we can all move to Theora in the near future! Silvia. Hi Dan, ah – I thought it was yours – apologies.

Actually, the html5flash project actually tries to implement the javascript API that HTML5 exposes for <video> to the flash player, too. So, that is not just a hack, but trying to integrate it properly.

For most of the others, you are right – they make sure the video playback works, which is good, but not all the way.

Let’s hope we can all move to Theora in the near future!

Silvia.

]]> By: Daniel http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/07/08/javascript-libraries-for-support/comment-page-1/#comment-1052 Daniel Wed, 08 Jul 2009 12:06:50 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=468#comment-1052 Hi Silvia, I just recently came across the video4all project, so I am not able to comment much on it. All I can say is that all these solutions really are just fallback solutions: they allow users to view a video (which is great in itself) but they do not implement all the fundamental behaviors, accessibility features, visuals, etc. of the standardized (-to be) 'video' element. These hacks serve a purpose for the time being by filling a gap in browsers vendors, but hopefully they will become obsolete soon :) Otherwise, it'll be just another way to interface with existing video playback facilities (e.g. Silverlight, Flash, Quicktime, etc.), which misses the whole point of having a uniform video experience across platforms. /Dan Hi Silvia, I just recently came across the video4all project, so I am not able to comment much on it.

All I can say is that all these solutions really are just fallback solutions: they allow users to view a video (which is great in itself) but they do not implement all the fundamental behaviors, accessibility features, visuals, etc. of the standardized (-to be) ‘video’ element.

These hacks serve a purpose for the time being by filling a gap in browsers vendors, but hopefully they will become obsolete soon :)

Otherwise, it’ll be just another way to interface with existing video playback facilities (e.g. Silverlight, Flash, Quicktime, etc.), which misses the whole point of having a uniform video experience across platforms.

/Dan

]]> By: silvia http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/07/08/javascript-libraries-for-support/comment-page-1/#comment-1051 silvia Wed, 08 Jul 2009 11:52:27 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=468#comment-1051 Hi Dan, Can you leave a more detailed explanation what differentiates video4all from the others? I found it rather difficult to do this, but I'm more than happy for you to add this in a comment! Thanks, Silvia. Hi Dan,

Can you leave a more detailed explanation what differentiates video4all from the others? I found it rather difficult to do this, but I’m more than happy for you to add this in a comment!

Thanks,
Silvia.

]]> By: Daniel http://blog.gingertech.net/2009/07/08/javascript-libraries-for-support/comment-page-1/#comment-1050 Daniel Wed, 08 Jul 2009 10:27:55 +0000 http://blog.gingertech.net/?p=468#comment-1050 in response to: "several posts that demonstrate how to play flv files in a tag." http://grack.com/blog/2009/07/07/video-support-for-older-browsers/ http://grack.com/blog/2009/07/07/more-on-video4all-html5-video-everywhere/ Cheers, Dan in response to:
“several posts that demonstrate how to play flv files in a tag.”

http://grack.com/blog/2009/07/07/video-support-for-older-browsers/

http://grack.com/blog/2009/07/07/more-on-video4all-html5-video-everywhere/

Cheers, Dan

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